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Author Topic: Qimage cannot see images with size > 2GB  (Read 9403 times)
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« on: October 20, 2010, 04:03:52 AM »

Is there any size limitation? I downloaded QIMAGE v2010.209 and it cannot see large images.
I have 64-bit Windows OS , RAM is 6 GB.
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« Reply #1 on: October 20, 2010, 07:12:00 AM »

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Is there any size limitation? I downloaded QIMAGE v2010.209 and it cannot see large images.

Good morning,
The size is limited by the resources available to Qimage from your system.
You can check the resources by going to HELP and holding the SHIFT key while you click on Analyze Current settings.
That will give you a clue to what is available to Qimage.
Rule of thumb; a file size about half of the reported number will load.

Fred
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« Reply #2 on: October 21, 2010, 03:03:38 AM »

Thank you very much Fred for your response. I did Analyze Current Settings as you guided.
Got a popup that states: Start: 2000MB Addl: 1638 MB, Now: 2000MG. So, only 2 GB is available.
At the same time my PC RAM 6 GB, 64-bit OS, and the disk has 297 GB free space. The question is
how to make this memory available for QImage?

Thanks again. Olga
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« Reply #3 on: October 21, 2010, 08:59:25 AM »

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The question is
how to make this memory available for QImage?

Hi Olga,
The next move is to RUN MSCONFIG and uncheck programs that are loading and running when you boot the computer.
This does not cause any problems. Anything you uncheck still  runs when called upon. Examples might be Adobe, Nero, Flashpipe, etc.
You might gain some extra that way.
The real improvement will have to come from some of the folks on here that are really good with Windows' switches, and reallocating memory.
I'm not knowledgeable enough to advise in that department.

Just to satisfy my curiosity and others that read these posts, and learn from them, how do you create a 2 gigabyte image file?
Thanks,
Fred
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« Reply #4 on: October 21, 2010, 05:56:26 PM »

Keep in mind that regardless of what you do, Windows cannot utilize any more than 2 GB per process/program unless you are running a 64 bit program on an x64 OS.

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« Reply #5 on: October 22, 2010, 12:52:04 AM »

Thanks, Mike. That explains.
I have 64-bit OS Windows 7. You state that QImage is "Fully supported on all Windows versions from Windows XP through Windows 7 x64". Do you have x64 version of QImage?

Fred, my images are computer generated. High resolution is my requirement plus I want to print 19''x16'' output. It gives me 
more than 2GB.

Thank you both. I hope I can solve my problem by using QImage.
Olga
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« Reply #6 on: October 22, 2010, 09:11:07 AM »

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Thank you both. I hope I can solve my problem by using QImage.
You didn't mention the ppi of your image.
If that is high from a previous upsample, that might be an unnecessary step.
One of the strengths of Qimage is its ability to properly upsample a file to match the required input ppi of your printer.
You might try a print using that method, and compare.
Just thinking out loud.
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« Reply #7 on: October 22, 2010, 09:15:31 AM »

Olga,
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I hope I can solve my problem by using QImage.
The way to do this is to use a smaller image (pixel size) and let Qimage do the interpolation. That's what it does and better than anything else you may be using.
19x16 is not exactly a large print size as far as Qimage is concerned. Other users print banners several times longer than that using Qimage.  Cool
Read this item here http://ddisoftware.com/tech/articles/march-2010-smart-photo-printing/
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« Reply #8 on: October 22, 2010, 12:25:47 PM »

I have 64-bit OS Windows 7. You state that QImage is "Fully supported on all Windows versions from Windows XP through Windows 7 x64". Do you have x64 version of QImage?

Yes, it is supported on all OS's including x64 and no, I have no plans for a 64 bit specific version because in 99.999% of cases (including yours, see below), a 64 bit version would make no difference.

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Fred, my images are computer generated. High resolution is my requirement plus I want to print 19''x16'' output. It gives me  
more than 2GB.

19x16 is pretty small as Qimage prints go.  There is no way you need a 2 GB image to print 19x16!  Even at 1000 PPI, a 19x16 would be less than 1 GB.  Plus, where are you getting this 2 GB image?  If you don't have 2 GB of original image data, then you are not using the proper workflow.  I must point this out because a lot of times I find that people take a single photo like a 10 or 20 MP image from a camera and upsample it in some other software first, when the correct method is to simply hand Qimage the original 10-20 MP image and let it do the interpolation.  By pre-interpolating, you are not only creating unnecessary work but you'll degrade the quality of the final image because Qimage can interpolate better than other software.  So unless you have a stitched panorama of literally dozens of frames from a high end dSLR or you are creating a collage of dozens of high res frames, there's no need to ever pass Qimage a 2 GB file.

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Mike
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« Reply #9 on: October 22, 2010, 06:34:34 PM »

Hi Olga,

Most folk here are into taking relatively small image files (photography) and having to up-res them to get a decent print. It seems you have high res digital computer generated images and need to downsize them. I would suggest you do that in whatever software you use to generate the image. You will not see the detail in a 19 by 16 print that you will see by scrolling round the whole image on your screen. For a 19 by 16 photo, at normal viewing distance, a print resolution of 300dpi or so will do for most photos. If you are using high quality media, and viewing with a magnifying glass, then you may want more dpi, but there is no point in feeding high resolution image detail to a relatively low resolution printer. This means, of course you will have your large original image file, and a separate smaller file just for printing. Probably any of the basic resizing algorithm's (bicubic or whatever) will do for downsizing, depending on the type of image you have generated, and final resolution you aim for.

Now whether it is better to downsize to give exactly 720 dpi (for an epson printer), so that qimage needs to apply none of its resizing, or downsizing to some other size and let qi do the final resizing, is something for you to try for yourself. qi has a test strip print facility, so you needn't waste paper printing the whole image.

If your original image is a multi-layered tiff, for example, then you could try flattening it, saving as 8 bit/whatever.

hth,

Best wishes,

Ray
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