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 on: June 28, 2017, 02:27:09 PM 
Started by PaulInWA - Last post by Terry-M
Hi Paul,
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The next most important thing to know, and in my mind a nasty "feature" of Qimage, is that unless you know that you have to "link" the "Special Text", i.e. the symbols that refer to various metadata fields, to the current page or selected print or all prints in the queue no text will appear when you print the page.
"nasty"!! It's logical and essential when you need to print multiple images per page with meta data.
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Bizarrely, you recall a saved layout by going through the Custom page size functionality which I find very unintuitive.  
Think about it, when you recall the layout, that is for editing it. By Recalling via Custom you avoid messing up the layout.
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Bottom line, the functionality I wanted appears to be available in Qimage so Kudos to Mike for providing this capability.
Yes, Mike does a great job. This functionality is not new to QU, it's been there for several years. I think it would b difficult to find any printing software that  has the functionality of QU  Cool
Terry

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 on: June 28, 2017, 01:07:12 PM 
Started by PaulInWA - Last post by PaulInWA
It appears the functionality I was looking for is probably available in Qimage Ultimate.  I have been traveling so I have been limited to using the demo to "print" pdf files using doPDF (a program I would recommend).  The most important thing to know if you are trying to do this is that the functionality in Qimage is called "Floating Text", or "Text Annotation" if you want an option with no flexibility.  The next most important thing to know, and in my mind a nasty "feature" of Qimage, is that unless you know that you have to "link" the "Special Text", i.e. the symbols that refer to various metadata fields, to the current page or selected print or all prints in the queue no text will appear when you print the page. 

Finally, the Template/Layout function allows you to save a page configuration, including the Floating Text so that you don't have to manually do this for each print job.  Bizarrely, you recall a saved layout by going through the Custom page size functionality which I find very unintuitive. 

Bottom line, the functionality I wanted appears to be available in Qimage so Kudos to Mike for providing this capability.  I will be buying a copy assuming it prints to my iPF8400 the same way it is printing to a PDF file.

FWIW.

Paul

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 on: June 28, 2017, 12:38:53 PM 
Started by mpayne - Last post by admin
The driver is supposed to report all valid media types to Windows and looking at the Windows documentation, there is no (real) limit to the number of media types you can have, but each media type name should be a maximum of 64 characters.  So unless the driver allows you to use more than 64 characters for the media type name (it shouldn't), any media types that don't show in the dropdown list in QU would be a result of a bug in the driver.  QU reads the number of media types reported by the driver and the names for each.  So simply put, if you had 100 media types and added one more, but you still see 100 in QU, it means that the driver is still reporting a list of 100 media types to the Windows OS.

I know there is a long standing bug in the HP Z series drivers that caused various problems if you added more than a certain number of media types (or sizes).  I don't know if HP ever fixed that problem; I don't go into that level of detail in my testing of the Z drivers.

One thing that I think CAN happen as a result of "user error" is duplicate indices.  In some drivers that allow you to create your own media types, the media type creation tool allows you to specify a name and a paper index (basically an integer tag).  Each media type must have an integer index so IF the tool allows you to create two media types with the same index such as "My Photo Paper 1" with an index of 111 and you later create a "My Photo Paper 2" with the same 111 integer index... Windows may resolve that conflict by only showing one of the two papers since the index is how you choose the paper type and they must be unique.

Now, technically those custom-media-type tools should prevent you from creating duplicate indices for media types.  But not having the physical Z printer in my posession, I'm not able to test the utility to see if it prevents those conflicts because the tool won't run without the printer attached.  Might be something to check though.

Regards,
Mike

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 on: June 28, 2017, 11:18:47 AM 
Started by mpayne - Last post by Ernst Dinkla
This is an issue with the driver: the iPF8300 driver does not report any media types to Windows which is why there are none listed in the dropdown list.  For drivers like this that do not properly report media types to the Windows OS, you have to click the "Properties" button and select the media type in the driver.  From what I've seen, only the 8300 has this problem although the HP Z drivers sometimes fail to list some custom media types if the user creates custom media types.

In any case, selecting the media type in the driver using the "Properties" button will work even though it won't be listed in the dropdown due to the driver not reporting the selection.

Regards,
Mike

Hello Mike,

So far the Z3200  custom media types are reported but now I have made one that is not showing in Qimage Ultimate but can be selected in the driver. Is it the total number of paper presets that gives the problem or the kind of names used?

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 on: June 27, 2017, 03:27:47 PM 
Started by PaulInWA - Last post by Terry-M
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I'm not an expert on templates but there are people here who are
Here is a starting point, Mike's tutorial video

https://www.youtube.com/embed/1TjdBbj-r2E

Terry

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 on: June 27, 2017, 03:27:20 PM 
Started by admin - Last post by Fred A
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The net effect is QU displays a printable area ("page size") the same size as the selected Media size with no printer margin deducted. I don't know if other printers have the same capability, but perhaps using the borderless setting would emulate the same situation as far as image placement and rotation is concerned.

Thanks Brad for all the information.
I keep a bunch of various drivers installed so I can try to simulate problems and try to help.
The Z3200  gives me fits, to be honest about it. Nothing  about it seems to have the same logic as Epson and Canon, and even some less extensive  HP models I have had.
So I really appreciate your sharing with me.
Thanks, Fred

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 on: June 27, 2017, 01:48:10 PM 
Started by admin - Last post by bgrigor
Minor issue in the job log.

If you have adjusted the column widths from the default (I like to slide the File Date, Printed To, Prts and Pgs as far to the right as possible), and then you Rename or Delete a job, the program resets the column widths back to the default.


This issue appears to be fixed as well. Thanks Mike.

Cheers!

Brad

 8 
 on: June 27, 2017, 01:45:05 PM 
Started by admin - Last post by bgrigor
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Fred, Mike, I concur...the new drag/drop and Alt+drag/drop is a smooth way to add/replace entries in the queue.
Brad,
You didn't mention anything about the rotate problem. Mike fixed that too.
Fred

It works!! Thank you so much.

Cheers!

Brad

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 on: June 27, 2017, 01:41:35 PM 
Started by admin - Last post by bgrigor
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Fred, Mike, I concur...the new drag/drop and Alt+drag/drop is a smooth way to add/replace entries in the queue.
Brad,
You didn't mention anything about the rotate problem. Mike fixed that too.
Fred

Awesome! I haven't had a paper print job since I reported that issue, but I will set one up now to try it out.

Cheers!

Brad

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 on: June 27, 2017, 01:40:17 PM 
Started by admin - Last post by bgrigor
** Brad is there another way to create a user defined page size other than opening Devices and Printers, right click on the driver, open printer preferences, and locate user defined, and then set it and save it there?
I would like to try 24.02 x 26" page instead of 24" next as that should give me enough printable area.
Next question: Why do you show a printable area in your screen snap of 24 x 25?
Just trying to help
Fred

Actually Fred, I create all my forms (i.e. Media sizes) in the Windows "Print Server Properties" tool, "Forms" tab.

C:\Windows\System32\printui.exe /s /t0

These form sizes are saved in the Windows registry. QU reads them and populates the "Media size" drop down on the "Printers and Settings" tab. I don't use the printer driver to create user defined forms.

Then, in the Z3200 Printer Driver, I ensure that the "Margins/Layout" option is set to "Clip contents by margins". That means the driver will tell QU the printing margin is 0", even though the printing margin will actually clip the image (i.e. it is not borderless). This is OK because my paper prints always have white borders (in B+ mode) and my canvas prints are printed on roll widths that ensure I have a minimum of 1/2" white space all around ("slop" area for when I apply the coating).

The net effect is QU displays a printable area ("page size") the same size as the selected Media size with no printer margin deducted. I don't know if other printers have the same capability, but perhaps using the borderless setting would emulate the same situation as far as image placement and rotation is concerned.

I print on roll stock and the Media size determines where the printer will cut off the prints.

Cheers!

Brad

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