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Author Topic: I am a newbie and I cannot print (2) 11x17 portrait images on a 24x18 landscape  (Read 24686 times)
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« on: August 31, 2014, 01:04:53 AM »

I am totally confused. I was able to print (2) 11x17 portrait orientation prints on my Epson 7890 using 24 inch wide roll paper.

I returned from vacation and the trial had expired. I paid for the full version and installed it and now the 11/17 portrait prints are being printed in landscape mode and I am wasting a great deal of paper.

Can anyone please help?

My wallet thanks you ................ lol

Thanks,
Mike
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« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2014, 02:42:16 AM »

I feel for you.  I seem to have a similar problem.  Four 5x7 images in Landscape orientation on a 24" roll keeps coming out as portrait with a lot of wasted paper.  Hopefully we'll find a solution.
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« Reply #2 on: August 31, 2014, 09:18:46 AM »

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I am totally confused. I was able to print (2) 11x17 portrait orientation prints on my Epson 7890 using 24 inch wide roll paper.

I returned from vacation and the trial had expired. I paid for the full version and installed it and now the 11/17 portrait prints are being printed in landscape mode and I am wasting a great deal of paper.

Can anyone please help?

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Hi Mike,
Welcome.

We need some more information on your page size. If it's too large, Qimage will try to save paper by turning your image around.
You can correct it by either locking the rotation using the "padlock", manually positioning, or make the page size more reasonable.

See the attached screen snaps.
130 shows what you are trying to achieve (I assume).
131 shows the same page, but it has been rotated... if that's what you see, click the little button below the images to rotate teh page.
132 shows what a too large pr incorrect page size will do.  I think that might be what you are seeing??
The page size was 24.02 x 36.00. It let Qimage place the prints on the page in such a way that it can add more pictures to the page.

Snap 133 shows my custom size in the driver.

Hope this helps.

Fred


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« Reply #3 on: August 31, 2014, 03:30:27 PM »

Although our printers are different, you just might find your answer hidden in the recent thread, "Portrait orientation when I want Landscape".
Good luck.
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« Reply #4 on: August 31, 2014, 03:43:49 PM »

Hi Fred,

Thank you very much for taking the time to help me!

I have Qimage setup as in image 130. The Qimage template appears exactly as I have them setup in the Epson print preview.
When I click on print, the image goes to the printer as in image 131.
I have to click the little button to rotate the print or I have to setup the custom print size in the driver or both?
Sorry, I thought the program would be WYSIWYG.
Should I take some screen snaps for you?

Thanks!
Mike
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« Reply #5 on: August 31, 2014, 04:09:00 PM »

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I have Qimage setup as in image 130. The Qimage template appears exactly as I have them setup in the Epson print preview.
When I click on print, the image goes to the printer as in image 131.
Yes, I would like to see what you see.
My screen snaps of 130 and 131 are identical... All I did was rotate the page on the screen. The paper in the printer is unaffected...
Did you print or just looking at the print preview?
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« Reply #6 on: August 31, 2014, 04:14:18 PM »

Here is my Print PREVIEW SCREEN and my Qimage preview panel.
Identical...

Fred
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« Reply #7 on: August 31, 2014, 04:44:54 PM »

Thanks Howard.
I am going to try again now.
Mike
Although our printers are different, you just might find your answer hidden in the recent thread, "Portrait orientation when I want Landscape".
Good luck.
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« Reply #8 on: August 31, 2014, 06:29:12 PM »

Hi Fred,
Here are my settings prior to printing

Thanks!
Mike



Here is my Print PREVIEW SCREEN and my Qimage preview panel.
Identical...

Fred
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« Reply #9 on: August 31, 2014, 09:38:53 PM »

Mike,

Everything is wrong..
You have the wrong ppi reading because you changed the size twice in the driver.
No check marks in the Page Layout tab... you have a check in Reduce Enlarge and another in Fit to Page.
Then you use USER DEFINED, but  did you define the page on roll paper or did you select some Arch C size paper which seems to be 18 x 24.

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I am totally confused. I was able to print (2) 11x17 portrait orientation prints on my Epson 7890 using 24 inch wide roll paper.

That was your opening line. 24" roll paper.

So you need to set the roll paper size to user defined... and set user defined to 24.02 x 18.00

Then you need to remove all the things you changed in the Page Layout tab making it look like the sample I sent you.

Make sure it says OUTPUT SIZE SAME AS INPUT.
Otherwise you get a pair of shoes with a 12 D size for the left foot and a 9A for the right foot.

Hope we have it this time.

Fred


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« Reply #10 on: August 31, 2014, 11:46:55 PM »

Fred,

I am an old, tired idiot! I should use the settings you just posted and not change anything in Qimage?

Thanks,
Mike
Mike,

Everything is wrong..
You have the wrong ppi reading because you changed the size twice in the driver.
No check marks in the Page Layout tab... you have a check in Reduce Enlarge and another in Fit to Page.
Then you use USER DEFINED, but  did you define the page on roll paper or did you select some Arch C size paper which seems to be 18 x 24.

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I am totally confused. I was able to print (2) 11x17 portrait orientation prints on my Epson 7890 using 24 inch wide roll paper.

That was your opening line. 24" roll paper.

So you need to set the roll paper size to user defined... and set user defined to 24.02 x 18.00

Then you need to remove all the things you changed in the Page Layout tab making it look like the sample I sent you.

Make sure it says OUTPUT SIZE SAME AS INPUT.
Otherwise you get a pair of shoes with a 12 D size for the left foot and a 9A for the right foot.

Hope we have it this time.

Fred



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« Reply #11 on: September 01, 2014, 09:13:31 AM »

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I am an old, tired idiot! I should use the settings you just posted and not change anything in Qimage?
Hey Mike,
You just described me!!
Let's get it organized.
Rule of thumb is that when using Qimage, you set the driver to a set of simple settings and I save them as a Printer setup in Qimage.
I use a printer profile so my driver is set to Color Management OFF!
I set the driver to the paper I am using.... Ultra Luster or Ultra Glossy, Ultra Matte... whatever. (That's two settings.)
Then I set the Quality Options to High Quality. Last is the paper size, sheet or roll.
DONE!
No checkmarks, no Scaling, No Enlarge or fit to page,,,, we are using Qimage, !!   We doan need no "steenkin' badges"  (Remember that movie?)
I save each size and paper type setting as a printer setup, so the next time I want to print an 11 x 14 print on Epson Ultra Luster, I recall the setuo in Qimage, and the driver is all set for me... for that print size and paper size...  For example, I have saved, an 8 x 10 Luster and another for 10 x 8 Luster.
When I recall, everything is ready to print...

In Qimage, you need only tell it what size print you want to make, with or without mat borders, how many on a page, where on the page....

So the follow up question is, when do you use all those settings in the driver? When you use software that needs help like many of these printing programs that come packed in the Cheerios box, along with the camera. Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

Fred
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« Reply #12 on: September 01, 2014, 04:33:51 PM »

Hey Fred,

You are too funny ................. Just like me - They call me the Joker!

One other question: Do I have the paper I am using setup properly?
It is HAHNEMUHLE PHOTO SILK BARYTA 310GSM 24IN X 50FT ROLL 3IN CORE.
I used the ICC profile for it in Qimage.

OK - I forgot - 2 questions:

Have you ever used the Jon Cone inks instead of the Epson OEM inks?

I seem to be going thru much more ink than I thought I would.
Perhaps it is because I have been printing incorrectly and wasting tons of paper.

I thought it would be a good option for me since I have tons of exhibition prints I want to print.

Thank you for hanging in there with me!
Mike
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« Reply #13 on: September 01, 2014, 07:37:32 PM »

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One other question: Do I have the paper I am using setup properly?
It is HAHNEMUHLE PHOTO SILK BARYTA 310GSM

Do you have a profile from Hahnemuhle for that paper?

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Have you ever used the Jon Cone inks instead of the Epson OEM inks?

I seem to be going thru much more ink than I thought I would.
Perhaps it is because I have been printing incorrectly and wasting tons of paper.

I thought it would be a good option for me since I have tons of exhibition prints I want to print.

I know nothing about those inks, but hang in there. Must be someone who will pass by that can nswer.

You gave me another chuckle Mike.
I was looking up that paper to see if there was a profile for you, when I stumbled across the price in B&H Photo/
... and you worry about ink?

Stay well,
Fred



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« Reply #14 on: September 01, 2014, 07:59:00 PM »

Hey Fred,

Now you know why I am worried about wasting paper .................. Expensive - but beautiful ............ looks like the old Ilford Galerie black and white photo paper I used when I was shooting 4x5 film. Yes - I am that old!

I am using the profile in Qimage.

What paper do you like from Epson that is similar to the HAHNEMUHLE PHOTO SILK BARYTA?

I would like to get a 100ft roll.

What do you shoot?

Take care,
Mike
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