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tonygamble
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« on: September 01, 2011, 08:02:24 AM »

One of the things I have started to do with Lightroom is to introduce a modest amount of vignetting. From time to time, of course, as it does not suit every image.

How would you gurus do this when working with a RAW image using Ultimate?

Tony
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« Reply #1 on: September 01, 2011, 09:13:00 AM »

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How would you gurus do this when working with a RAW image using Ultimate?

Tony

Hi Tony,
Qimage Ultimate comes with a decent selection of oval and rectangular cutouts.
Some of the more nimble users have created even more *extra) cutouts and frames, and have shared them.
They create them in PS and Terry has a software application that makes it easy peasy as he likes to say!

I have a zip file of a bunch of extras along with the ones that come with Ultimate.
You have my email. Let me know if you want them.

I just whipped this up in 15 seconds, not centered or anything, and a very rough looking subject!

My best to the Queen!

Fred
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« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2011, 09:30:06 AM »

Thanks Fred,

In fact what I was looking for was a darkening of the edges of the image - the sort of thing introduced by lazy lens designers to make work for software folk who sell gizmos to remove it.

Used here for example:-
http://www.tonygamble.org/BowlsCrossley%202011/_1140513.htm
http://www.tonygamble.org/BowlsCrossley%202011/_1140516.htm
http://www.tonygamble.org/BowlsCrossley%202011/_1140729.htm

Of course the GH2 had already removed the darkened edges. It was TG who added them back!

Any ideas?

Kindest regards,

Tony






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« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2011, 09:35:23 AM »

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Any ideas?

Like this?

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« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2011, 09:50:24 AM »

You can make your own vignette filters to suit your needs.

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« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2011, 10:04:22 AM »

Yes, like that.

How do you make them black?

Tony
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« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2011, 10:05:13 AM »

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See we have you guys doing the "bowling" thing here too.

:-)
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« Reply #7 on: September 01, 2011, 10:12:41 AM »

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Yes, like that.

How do you make them black?

Tony,
It has been years since I made one of these, and I would prefer that you get step by step instructions from Terry or Brian, or someone who is adept.

I remember using a mask and painting it white instead of black in PS.  I made a few rectangular cutouts just to see if I could do it, and left the creating of real cutouts to the talented people.

I will text message Terry to get on here to help, or if Brian is listening, he can jump in.
I know Terry bought a program that is designed to make these cutouts, and the opacity can be changed as well as the graduation.

Fred

Now I can't find my phone to send Terry a message.... Huh?
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« Reply #8 on: September 01, 2011, 10:22:46 AM »

Just heard from Terry
He is OUT for a couple more hours.
Be patient.
I wish I had Brian's number... I know he can help you too.

Fred
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« Reply #9 on: September 01, 2011, 10:31:51 AM »

Thanks Fred,

We liked the smart yellow bowling wear.

We are off to The Watermill at Newbury in a couple of hours to see an old Noel Gay musical. It'll be the last spin of the year for the B****ey I guess.

I'll be out when Terry surfaces but will pick up this thread first thing tomorrow. I'm going to give Ultimate its first real trial - so you can expect a few more FAQ's I fear.

Kindest regards,

Tony
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« Reply #10 on: September 01, 2011, 03:42:44 PM »


I know Terry bought a program that is designed to make these cutouts, and the opacity can be changed as well as the graduation.


Looking forward to more info on cutouts, especially the name of Terry's program.
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« Reply #11 on: September 02, 2011, 07:45:48 AM »

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I'll be out when Terry surfaces but will pick up this thread first thing tomorrow
I've now surfaced for a little while  Wink
There is a good guide to cutouts and frame in the Help: Contents-Listing of Major Functions-Cutouts.
Here is some of the info':
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How to create a cutout image: To create a cutout, just use your favorite image editor and create a new image in 24 bit (16 million) color format. The image can be anything you like, however, Qimage treats all shades of pure gray as a transparency level: 0,0,0 is 100% transparent and 255,255,255 is opaque and will show as white on the printout. In other words, the original image will "show through" the cutout for any pixel in your cutout that has RGB value 0,0,0. A gray shade of 128,128,128 will show your image "half faded" to white. A value of 255,255,255 in your cutout will show as white in the resulting image (none of the original image will come through). All other shades of pure gray can be used to specify how much of the original image makes it through to the result, with 0,0,0 showing the original image and 255,255,255 having the original image completely "blocked" (white). Given this, if you look at the first oval cutout above, it is no more than an all white image with a circle in the center filled with RGB color (0,0,0). Why is the image above an oval cutout and not a circle? Because the cutout is always stretched first (distorted) so that it fits over the target image exactly. This is handy because if you look at the oval cutout supplied with Qimage (which is actually a circle), the top, bottom, left and right edges always touch the edge of your photo giving you the maximum possible area inside the oval! The second, faded oval, is a cutout with 0,0,0 near the center, fading through 1,1,1, 2,2,2, 3,3,3, etc to the edges where the 255,255,255 completely masks the original image.
Because you want to vignette to black (or any other colour including grey), Help tells you how to do it:
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While neutral colors from 0,0,0 (transparent) to 255,255,255 (opaque) have special meaning in that they dictate the amount of transparency, it is possible to fade to colors other than white (the default fade color).  Simply add the fade color enclosed in square brackets as part of the file name.  For example, fade-oval.tif fades from transparent in the center to white at the edges.  The same file with the name fade-oval[0,0,0].tif will fade to black at the edges instead of white.  Naming the file fade-oval[0,255,0].tif will cause a fade to green at the edges, and so forth.  Note that regardless of the fade color, 0,0,0 still indicates 100% image and 0% fade color and 255,255,255 indicates 0% image and 100% fade color.  Also note that if you would like your prints to fade into the color set as the page background color, do not use the file name fade override as it will override the fade color without considering the page background color.
I've attached a sample that fades to black. NB. the original was a tiff. Also note the [0,0,0] in the file name to indicate it fades to black.

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Looking forward to more info on cutouts, especially the name of Terry's program.
The program I use is Serif Page Plus. http://www.serif.com/pageplus/ which is a desktop publishing program. They also do DrawPLus but PagePlus has many of the drawing features.
It's similar to programs like Corel Draw but costs much less, especially if you buy last years edition. Other programs like Photoshop or Corel Paintshop Pro should be able make cutouts and frames too.
Terry



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« Reply #12 on: September 02, 2011, 09:51:42 AM »

Anyone that understands that on the first reading, Raise your hand!!

Anyone on the second??

How about the third?

Now you see why I almost had to drive over to Rugby England and wake him to get on here.

Anyone want the premade set of cutouts after reading the instructions on how to make your own, email me at wathree.ssz@verizon.net.

Fred  Grin
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« Reply #13 on: September 02, 2011, 10:08:34 AM »

Fred, and I was thinking I was slow...... I am pleased I am not the only one who felt a bit confused.

I have been dealing with the day to day emails before:-

a. Downloading a version of Ultimate I can put on this internet linked PC and then

b. Seeing what cut outs come down with the system

I'm assuming Mike has no objection to me having this second version of Ultimate so, in ten or so minutes, I ought to have a workable version on this machine (my studio PC has no internet as you know).

If you have some pre-mades that are not coming down with (b) would you be kind enough to email them to me at my compuserve address, please Fred. If I can get them to work with a vignette the next thing I am going to ask for are graduated so I can darken skies or foregrounds - but one step at a time....

Tony
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« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2011, 01:04:11 PM »

Because you want to vignette to black (or any other colour including grey), Help tells you how to do it:

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While neutral colors from 0,0,0 (transparent) to 255,255,255 (opaque) have special meaning in that they dictate the amount of transparency, it is possible to fade to colors other than white (the default fade color).  Simply add the fade color enclosed in square brackets as part of the file name.  For example, fade-oval.tif fades from transparent in the center to white at the edges.  The same file with the name fade-oval[0,0,0].tif will fade to black at the edges instead of white.  Naming the file fade-oval[0,255,0].tif will cause a fade to green at the edges, and so forth.  Note that regardless of the fade color, 0,0,0 still indicates 100% image and 0% fade color and 255,255,255 indicates 0% image and 100% fade color.  Also note that if you would like your prints to fade into the color set as the page background color, do not use the file name fade override as it will override the fade color without considering the page background color.

It's also very easy to pick an appropriate RGB value from your image and then use that value when you re-name the vignette file.  I rarely use black or white vignettes.
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