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Author Topic: Print color not matching Qimage view  (Read 21594 times)
Annie
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« on: July 26, 2016, 06:36:21 PM »

I just found Qimage and am trying to use it to solve color difference problem in printing.  I scanned a watercolor and ink drawing to print with my new Epson 1430.  

My monitor isn't calibrated but I never have problems with colors on screen not matching my scanned artwork.  The colors also show up accurate in Qimage window but the print comes out very green/blue.  Image below is original and printed.

I watched the videos and checked all the correct boxes for paper and color management.  What else could it be?
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« Reply #1 on: July 26, 2016, 06:46:59 PM »

Not sure if I sure sort out one question at a time but the other issue is white border printed uneven as you can see in the image above.  Although this just might be my paper holder not being very snug leaving room for movement.  This is what my screen looks like so if it's something I didn't set correctly maybe someone can tell me.  Thanks for your help.

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« Reply #2 on: July 26, 2016, 08:26:39 PM »

Hi Annie,
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Image below is original and printed
We cannot see any image.
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but the print comes out very green/blue
Back to basics, have you done a nozzle check, are all colours printing?
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« Reply #3 on: July 26, 2016, 10:12:49 PM »



The printer is brand new and these are only the 4th and 5th prints.
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« Reply #4 on: July 26, 2016, 10:45:12 PM »

Sorry, still cannot see your images - I just get my own dropbox opening.
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The printer is brand new and these are only the 4th and 5th prints
That does not mean nozzles are completely clear, do the nozzle check and get that possibility out of the way.
Also, show a screen shot of QU settings on the main screen to the right of the thumbs.
Use the forum attachment feature, click additional options.
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« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2016, 06:05:10 AM »

Thank you for your patience Terry.  I believe I have the images working in the posts above.  Please let me know if not.

I will do a nozzle check first thing in the morning.
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« Reply #6 on: July 27, 2016, 07:41:04 AM »

Thank you for your patience Terry.  I believe I have the images working in the posts above.  Please let me know if not.

I will do a nozzle check first thing in the morning.

Images show ok here. ie. one image in each of first two posts.

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« Reply #7 on: July 27, 2016, 11:00:31 AM »

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I believe I have the images working in the posts above
Yes, I can see them now. It does look like there's a colour missing - or a mis-match of profiles.
In addition to the nozzle check , can you show us a screen shot of your driver settings. They should be more-or-less the same as the screen shots below.
I assume you have the paper profile set correctly (Epson profile?). Is that paper set in the driver?
What colour space is showing for the image, hover the mouse over the thumbnail and the colour space is shown in the QU exif bar at the bottom - extreme right of the data. If it has asterisk around it is embedded so should be ok. If not embedded in the image it may just show sRGB (default). Is it what you expect from your scanner?

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« Reply #8 on: July 27, 2016, 11:01:27 AM »

Annie,
What are the driver settings?
Should be set to No Color Management

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Annie
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« Reply #9 on: July 27, 2016, 04:51:52 PM »

I carefully followed all the setting selections as shown in the videos.  No color management was selected.  Nozzle check was fine.

I have printed on Epson Ultra Premium Presentation Matte with the correct paper selection previously.  For this print I selected presentation paper matte to match the paper I used.  

Terry, Is this info you're referring to?  I don't know what my Epson Perfection 4990 scanner does but the scans and prints (not printed by me and on a variety of medias) come out matching the original artwork.



I have to say that the first print on this printer was made on Inkpress luster paper and it came out perfect and beautiful.  I will use it for certain artwork that require that paper.  It is just a bit too 'photo' for certain artwork reproduction.  I would also like to print on lightly textured paper to resemble watercolor once I get this matte paper sorted out.  

Does having had a perfect print indicate the settings on all my devices are compatible?

I want to thank you all for your help.  I really appreciate it.
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« Reply #10 on: July 27, 2016, 08:41:59 PM »

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Terry, Is this info you're referring to?
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No, it's below the thumbs, right at the bottom of the QU screen.
See screen shot attached.
Your drivers settings look fine.
Have you selected the right printer profile to match the paper "SP 1430 Matte Paper-HW " ? Is there a separate profile for the presentation matte?
I can't think of anything else at present.
I often use Epson Archival Matte and get great  prints on my R2000 (not suitable for your printer) so would expect you to get good colours on matte with your printer.
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2016, 10:02:13 PM »

Thank you for the screen shot.  Here's mine.



The printer paper profile matched the QU paper profile and matched the paper used.
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« Reply #12 on: July 27, 2016, 11:31:21 PM »

Here I used a premium luster paper and the image was saturated and as intense as the original except for the missing red/mauve.  I made sure to choose the recommended settings.

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« Reply #13 on: July 28, 2016, 03:50:10 AM »



I know this is more of a photo forum so what I'm trying to do is a bit different.   While most are printing photos they shot I am scanning drawing/paintings and printing them to look like the original artwork.  It's obvious when the color is off. 

I don't even know what I'm trying to say except this is daunting, all the different ways prints come out.  I'm trying different papers, settings and artworks and different programs to print with.  Photoshop is pretty off.  QU is more green and blue overcast on the different artworks I've printed.  ACDSee, although off on color, is actually the closest, when I print on the basic Color control Epson Vivid or Fix Photo, which I tried out of curiosity. 

I want to sell prints of original drawings but can't seem to get colors to match close enough or know where to start fixing.  Crazy.

Thanks for all your patience.  It's hard to trouble shoot something with so many variables.

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« Reply #14 on: July 28, 2016, 11:17:55 AM »

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I don't even know what I'm trying to say except this is daunting, all the different ways prints come out.  I'm trying different papers, settings and artworks and different programs to print with.  Photoshop is pretty off.  QU is more green and blue overcast on the different artworks I've printed.  ACDSee, although off on color, is actually the closest, when I print on the basic Color control Epson Vivid or Fix Photo, which I tried out of curiosity. 

Annie,
I have just been talking with Terry (via Skype as he is in England, and I am in Florida, USA
We agreed that you are having so many changes that it is difficult to keep a grasp of it.

So, lets do this.
We would like you change some settings in Qimage and one setting in the driver.

In the driver, take the check dot out of No Color Adjustment but make sure it is still in ICM.

In Qimage, we would like you to set the profile to LET Printer Driver manage color.

See screen snaps...  Tick the right side arrow ( #054)  and select the Let Printer Driver..... as shown in #055.

Keep the proper paper selection in the driver, and now make your test prints.

If the prints are good, most likely a bad Epson profile, or wrong profile.
If the prints are still lacking red, then you likely have a clogged head or clogged nozzles.

Give it a try.

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