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Terry-M
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« Reply #15 on: July 08, 2010, 07:08:49 AM »

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I did what you said about roll paper banner and I set a user defined size - a little larger than the print.
Tell us the numbers, what did you specify and what does Qimage report as being the printable area, just above th epage preview on the main screen.
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I am well within the Epson driver settings.
It's nothing to do with the driver directly, it's the relationship between the Image size,  the specified page size and how much of that page is available to print on. Depending on your driver settings, any defined page will not have the full area to print on, even with roll paper. I don't know about your particular printer, but other large format Epson printers usually have page margins of about 1/8th inch. So check what Qimage tells you as the printable area in relation to your image size.
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Also, the image is 36.4 x 46.7 and QI has it as 36.25 x 46.5.
This is larger than you expect, that is a possible reason why Qimage wants to spread over 2 pages, make the page bigger and it wont do that.
I would check again your "Original Size" in your editor but the best/normal way to use Qimage is to specify the linear dimensions required within Qimage. For a custom size, Select Custom in the Print Properties drop-down then dot "Enter Specific Size". Crop scissors must be on. That way you will get the size required.
Be warned, if you have an error in your image original size such that the aspect ratio is different, Qimage will trim the image to get the correct size when the crop scissors are on!
Terry.

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« Reply #16 on: July 08, 2010, 08:36:16 AM »

Ok, I couldn't sleep because this is bugging me and I have to get it done. Again, the original image is 36.4 x 46.7. The print que shows 36.25 x 46.5. The printable area that QI is showing is 43.766 x 38. I have user defined set at 44 x  38. Auto cropping is off next to that borders there is a 1 and then 0.00 and then a 2 with 0.00. I guess I don't know what other numbers to change. The original image size is what I need and from my numbers I'm not understanding why it would spread across 2 pages. I'm afraid to print again until it's figured out. Of course if I don't figure it out  I may never sleep again.
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« Reply #17 on: July 08, 2010, 08:46:06 AM »

I think I figured it out. It  should be a user defined size of 44 x 46.7. So, I made a new user defined size of that bit I cannot get it to change in the printable area.
Finally! that did it. No message things, it looks right. I'll print later. After I get some sleep. I'll worry about that other tiff file later. Thank you.

Oh, I did check the tiff file again that is giving me the read error. If I right click on it in QI and go to soft proof, it does show up. Does this mean it would print out of QI even though it gives me the read error?
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« Reply #18 on: July 08, 2010, 09:44:41 AM »

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It  should be a user defined size of 44 x 46.7.
Sounds like you might have had the sizes reversed in the User Defined entries in the driver. That can be confusing at times especially when you have more than one printer.
Some take the size entry with a decimal point and some leave out the decimal, and then the size resets itself to a default.

Ray hit a good point.
After you have your sizes set, there are other small but significant settings to check such as having an external (+) border turned on. That will enlarge the print, but if the border is white, you wont see it.
The only way to check properly is to READ the size of the print that is showing in the queue. That is the box below the thumbnails.
Whatever Qimage reports *THERE* as your print size, that you can take to the bank!!
If and when you get a message that Qimage wants to use more than one page, you must compare the print size (lower left) with the printable area size (Upper right of the screen). You will see that it doesn't fit. The print is larger than the printable area.
Either make the printable area larger, or make the print a little smaller.

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« Reply #19 on: July 08, 2010, 12:49:54 PM »

In Qimage, towards bottom rh corner - underneath 'Print Properties'  There is a drop down menu - select 'custom size', and put the actual print size in there - another window opens up labelled 'Special Sizes'. Then make sure your borders are set as required - I guess none  are required, plus go to the page formatting (top of screen) and select margins, edge markings, other stuff or not, as required.

It may make more sense to you to do it in some other order. You should be able to see the result on screen in print preview - but it may not show the fine lines of edge markings, but will show if you've got it on one sheet. If the print width is very near the actual width of the paper, then you may need to select borderless, etc.

(the above was in response to your post with
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Ok, I couldn't sleep because this is bugging me
- but Fred and Terry are back now. Hope you sleep OK tonight  Cheesy

Best wishes,

Ray
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« Reply #20 on: July 08, 2010, 01:14:01 PM »

Just a note, if you've not already seen - http://ddisoftware.com/tech/articles/april-2010-understanding-your-photo-printer/  and follow the links within there, too. It will give you a good insight into why qimage size settings can be complex.
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« Reply #21 on: July 08, 2010, 01:24:40 PM »

Thank you. I know it is hard to believe I have been doing this for years. But, that still is a good article. I think it's just been hard to move all the printing to a pc (coming from a mac) and learning the software at the same time. And of course my personality of wanting to know why it does this or that tends to get in the way. This situation is a bit more stressful because I have theses orders to fill right away. That is why I am so grateful to everyone for responding so quickly and pointing me in the right direction. Maybe Terry or Fred could tell me if I can softproof the read error file in QI does that mean it will print ok.
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« Reply #22 on: July 08, 2010, 01:55:53 PM »

I never use soft proof, but in the epson driver you can turn on 'print preview'. Before the job prints, it puts up the image on screen - that is what I referred to earlier. Ignore the colours, but it is a quick visual check for obvious errors wrt placement/sizing etc. I guess it may slow down a batch run of different prints - be careful it will not always show the fine line edge markings.

It would help us, if you answer the specific questions asked by Fred/Terry, They then generally can give a precise answer. My approach tends to be point in general direction, help you to find out for yourself, hopefully on the way you learn a few other things that you may forget, or find useful Wink

Always remember, if it was easy, everybody would be doing it.

Best wishes,

Ray
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« Reply #23 on: July 08, 2010, 02:07:37 PM »

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Maybe Terry or Fred could tell me if I can softproof the read error file in QI does that mean it will print ok.
I don't know but Ray's suggestion of using the driver Print Preview should answer it. Fre is out of action at present, a power failure I think.
Terry
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« Reply #24 on: July 08, 2010, 02:30:36 PM »

So, you're saying if I can see the image in print preview that even though I get the read error in QI, I would be able to print it?
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« Reply #25 on: July 08, 2010, 03:42:24 PM »

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So, you're saying if I can see the image in print preview that even though I get the read error in QI, I would be able to print it?
I think so. Try a very small version first to test it; specify a 6x4 from the size drop down and put a sheet of paper in your printer. I'm hoping Fred will be back soon.
Terry
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« Reply #26 on: July 08, 2010, 04:01:37 PM »

Terry do you why the image is coming out not centered on the paper. In QI it shows centered, I have picked center down below but it comes out not centered.
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« Reply #27 on: July 08, 2010, 08:08:58 PM »

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Terry do you know why the image is coming out not centered on the paper. In QI it shows centered, I have picked center down below but it comes out not centered.
Are you talking about a small test image on a sheet or your big one on roll?
Have you checked the Full Page Editor, size position tab, that's right hand icon under the page preview?
Sometimes the printable area is not centred (by the driver. You can centre this in Page Formatting-Margins but it will reduce the printable area.
Can you give us some more detail, a screen shot, main screen rhs and Full Page Editor?
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« Reply #28 on: July 09, 2010, 11:37:44 PM »

 Just wanted to say thank you to everyone. I think I got all of the kinks worked out for now. I looked at the full page editor and my last print is coming out centered. I think I need to ask over at the printer forum if someone has a 9800 that they can check the tabs in the properties for me. It looks different than on the mac and I don't seem to have the tab that says "paper". But, for now everything is going along smoothly. I had to spray all of the canvases and am just printing the last print. I'll purchase the SE addition of QI and I think I'll be all set. Thanks again for being so patient. I'm sure I'll be back for more questions. Oh, on a side note, how do you take a screen capture on a pc? Is there a keyboard shortcut. Also before I forget I know I came across the smart sharpening dialogue somewhere but for the life of me I cannot find it again. See, you thought you were getting away without answering any questions.
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« Reply #29 on: July 10, 2010, 01:41:48 AM »

on pc, full keyboard - not sure where on notebook - key labelled 'Prt SC' with also sometimes 'Sys Rq' on edge of key. hit that. If you hold shift key it gets the active window (or it may be vice versa). That copies screen (or window) to clipboard, then open an image viewer and paste into it. On full size keyboard it's above the delete and insert keys.
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