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« Reply #15 on: July 18, 2009, 10:23:47 AM »

I hope this discussion keeps going.
With Pictures .. a Big Plus!

This is so much better then yahoo!!!!!

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« Reply #16 on: July 18, 2009, 07:34:16 PM »

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Buying CS4 or CS3 with all that it can do, and for what digi photogs really use of it, is like fishing with a bamboo pole, a string, a safety pin for a hook, and a worm....

But, that's the way I learned to fish in survival school.

No matter what industry, nobody uses ALL of PS' properties.  There are just certain things that PS does for digital that QI does not/cannot do.  I just as soon QI stay a printing program and not make it as complex as a photo editor.

I mean, even Adobe put in crap in PS its not very good at, like pano (I use Panorama Factory) and HDRI.
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« Reply #17 on: July 24, 2009, 02:24:53 AM »

Sorry, I meant margins. That comes from years ago when you were asked if you wanted borderless prints.
I have a Canon6000I, and I'm using Epson 4 X 6 paper. I've tried center print, fit to print, changed the margins and still can't get 4 equal margins on a 4 X 6. Changed the print size to 5.85 x 3.85. Still no equal margins. The top margin is always wider. The printer is set for 4 X 6 paper. I tried to manually place the image today, but didn't have time to finish. Is manual the way to go? Qimage is the only program that does this.
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« Reply #18 on: July 24, 2009, 06:23:37 AM »

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Sorry, I meant margins
I think some of us guessed that.
And again, if it's like my Canon printer, the page margins are not equal so what you are seeing is what the driver is telling Qimage.
However it is possible to centre the printable area on the page from the Page formatting menu - Margins, but you need to be aware that will reduce the maximum size of print on the page.
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« Reply #19 on: August 03, 2009, 05:28:34 PM »

I have a similar question and thought that I should add it to this thread rather than start a new one for the same question/answer.  I have an Epson 4880.  I would like to print an image cropped at 8.5 x 11 on an 8.5 x 11 paper with even margins.  I don't care the actual size of the margins, only that they are even around the print.  In landscape mode, the best I have done is the left and right side are equal, but the bottom is larger margin than the top.  I have tried the "center on physical page" option, with the with the optimal or centered print placement.  The difference between optimal and centered moves the wider space from top to bottom.  In the Q Image preview the image appears centered but on the Epson printer preview of the same image, the margins are unbalanced.

Using the Center on physical page option, it adds additional margin to the top of the page (portrait mode) and the printed top and bottom are equal.  There is no adjustment made to left or right side, and my printed page is uneven.

I am sure this is cockpit error on my part, but I just can't seem to figure it out.

The second part of the question is similar, I would like to print my normal cropped 4x6 images on an 8.5x11 page centered to the maximum print size available.  Again, I don't care about the actual printed image size, just that the boarders are balanced, top and bottom, right and left.

Thanks for your help!!

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« Reply #20 on: August 03, 2009, 07:13:33 PM »

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I have an Epson 4880.  I would like to print an image cropped at 8.5 x 11 on an 8.5 x 11 paper with even margins.
Let's take this a step at a time.
You want an 8.5 x 11 print on 8.5 x 11 paper. That says you must print in borderless mode. No margins!
There is no centering of the print, except for your print cropping where you can center the subject etc. The print runs from edge to edge in both directions, so what are we looking for?
Let's leave the 4 x 6 until we get this straightened out.
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« Reply #21 on: August 03, 2009, 07:26:24 PM »

Just to add to Fred's question:
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In the Q Image preview the image appears centered but on the Epson printer preview of the same image, the margins are unbalanced.
Can I suggest you supply some numbers. Look in the Full Page Editor on the Size-Position tab. That tells you, on the RHS, the space to the edge of the page.

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Using the Center on physical page option, it adds additional margin to the top of the page (portrait mode) and the printed top and bottom are equal.
That seems to indicate that the 4800 does not have equal page margins.
See what else you can tell us so we can make progress on your problem.
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« Reply #22 on: August 03, 2009, 07:53:43 PM »

Sorry,

Fred A - I guess that I didn't explain myself in sufficient detail.  I want to print an 8.5x11 ratio crop on an 8.5 x 11 paper not boarderless.  I would like it to be as large as it can be with boarders, I don't care about the exact size of the print or boarders, just that the margins are symetrical.

Terry M - I can't find the Size position tab - the full page editor is launched when you double click on the selected image in the right hand panel, correct?  Navigation assistance requested.

Thanks, I really appreciate your help.

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« Reply #23 on: August 03, 2009, 08:33:26 PM »

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I can't find the Size position tab - the full page editor is launched when you double click on the selected image in the right hand panel, correct?
I should have said Size/Location tab.
The Size/Loc tab (and Crop tab) are on the right hand side of the FPE screen. You don't double click the image, just select with one left click and the appropriate dimensions appear in the boxes.
See attached screen snap of the Size Location tab below, click on it for a larger view. My dimensions are in mm btw.

You might want to check your driver settings too. Some drivers will have one larger page margin for paper feed purposes; this can usually be set to give maximum print area and equal page margins.
The Qimage Page Formatting menu tell you what the driver margins are.

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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2009, 08:41:43 PM »

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I guess that I didn't explain myself in sufficient detail.  I want to print an 8.5x11 ratio crop on an 8.5 x 11 paper not boarderless.  I would like it to be as large as it can be with boarders, I don't care about the exact size of the print or boarders, just that the margins are symetrical.
Bill,
This is the way it works.
The printer has preset housekeeping margins that belongs to Epson. In your case. .56 inches on the right side of a landscape 8,5 x 11 page.
Therefore, in order to center a large print (as big as you can make with equal margins,) you will need to have the long side of the print 10.33 minus 1.12 inches.
Then whehn you click center in the Full Page editor, you will get .64 on either long end and .15 on the short ends.
Then you could trim the print on the long ends and get what you want.
That will work.. I think?


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« Reply #25 on: August 03, 2009, 08:52:31 PM »

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Some drivers will have one larger page margin for paper feed purposes; this can usually be set to give maximum print area and equal page margins.
At great expense  Grin I downloaded the 4880 driver and installed it.
I think this is the answer, there are options on Printable Area, you need Maximum or Centre. The latter will give a much smaller area than maximum.
See screen snap attached.
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PS. "Maximum" has equal margins for all practical purposes too.
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« Reply #26 on: August 03, 2009, 09:05:26 PM »

It looks like that works out the same as manually doing it, but nevertheless, I still see trimming two sides.
Can you make all side margins even?
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« Reply #27 on: August 03, 2009, 09:14:27 PM »

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Can you make all side margins even?
Yes. See screen snap from Qimage margins menu. I you click Centre, then they become exactly equal at 0.1167 ins
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« Reply #28 on: August 03, 2009, 09:20:34 PM »

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Yes. See screen snap from Qimage margins menu. I you click Centre, then they become exactly equal at 0.1167 in
What does FPE show?
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« Reply #29 on: August 03, 2009, 09:23:44 PM »

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What does FPE show?
The same wrt margins.
See also screen snap attached of printable area
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